Folding masts - failure reports?

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  • 29 May 2018 10:16
    Reply # 6270747 on 666223

    We also have a boat called Lexia and a black and white collie dog.  I do not however have that degree of chutzpah.  Congratulations.   Video of the year.  

  • 29 May 2018 08:52
    Reply # 6270633 on 666223

    Robert, your you tube clips are priceless... words fail me...  the chain drive.. the steering gear.. they say the English are eccentric - Mate, this gives a whole new meaning to "junk rig" and you haven't even got the mast up yet. The exquisite fendering  tells its own tale, and the English gentleman walking smartly backwards raises not an eyebrow.

    Seriously, compared with this, you could easily make a folding mast out of the parts you have got there. I am sure your evident DIY skills are up to Dave W's sliding sleeve suggestion. If a conventional tabernacle appeals I hope some others will give you advice on how to do it. I can see why you need a folding mast - actually I envy you, we do not have these canal systems with direct access to villages as you do in the UK. Congratulations on your unconventional way of enjoying them.

    Have a look folks: the links are 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeNYvVobRoM

    and

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih__xHxqUdo

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  • 28 May 2018 21:49
    Reply # 6269843 on 666223

    I am rob current custodian of lexia 79 I've been pedaling on the river lea trying to figure the hinge out I think it was needle spar who quoted me £1500 3rd of that I could just do tempted to diy but I'd lunch it out you can see it being pedaled on you tube under robs pedal boat


  • 04 Aug 2011 17:58
    Reply # 669545 on 666223
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    Thanks for all your comments..

    Robert: The Midi looks great, but I think it is too far a hop for me at my level of experience, and a bit too much Biscay..

    I think we are planning the shortest Dover >Calais trip that we can, on a good day, with careful attention to shipping lanes and AIS. Might have the confidence to do the Midi route on the way back with a years more experience under my belt.

    Johnathan; Yes minimising the overhang would be advantageous. I am a little wary of getting knocked around by bigger boats in the canals.

    Robert: The six tyres advice sounds sensible. I was even thinking of lashing 2x 8ft scaffolding poles across the deck fore and aft, and attaching the tyres to each end. That way if a really heavy boat tries to crush us we will have some protection..
  • 03 Aug 2011 13:37
    Reply # 668520 on 666223
    Sorry Sam, what I meant is even with the mast folded there is still some mast above the sole or cabin which still has to fit under the bridge , plus 6 tyiers 3 each side will come in handy in the locks you share with other boats  .  After trying to advise three elderly ladies how rope off there barge in one lock , I turned around to find my boat was 1 foot above the water line .Lucky my shark killing flick knife was close at hand to cut my rope , have fun  .  
  • 02 Aug 2011 18:07
    Reply # 667931 on 666223
    Sam, This may be a statement of the bleeding obvious, and I suspect that you will have thought of it, but ... one other advantage of a folding mast would be that if it can be detached at the joint, which I think they can be but I am not sure, the mast to be carried on deck would be shorter than a whole mast and hopefully would be no longer than the deck so as not to have an unweildy overhang so making life that much easier in locks and at close quarters.  Jonathan
  • 02 Aug 2011 14:39
    Reply # 667720 on 666223

    Appologies, nothing to do with junk rigs but:

    I recall a memorable sail up the Gironde to Bordeaux, up at first light to catch the tide, more or less drfited up, past the banks all misty in the early morning, just us and the birds - wonderful.

    Mark

  • 01 Aug 2011 11:04
    Reply # 666953 on 666223
              Helo Sam  , the lowest bridge on the Midi canal is 3.33 mtrs above water level  at the center of the arch so give yourself about 6 inches or a foot lower . You can have yourmast taken out  at Bordeaux if you dont go the foldy way , but it will save you lift in and out money plus time waiting . You can sail up to Bordeaux but watch the tides and river flow ,its big and wide .   If you go that way I reconmend you get the     Carto  Guide Fluvial     three languages , french german,english ,by Jean Morlet   .French tel 01 64 76 64 90 .       fax  01 64 76 64 99     www.nautisme.com   e/mail chabassol@wanadoo.fr     before you get into the Gironde, its got all the imfo you need plus regs .   At certain times they  shut the canal for maintance , so phone ,  your supposed to have more than  one aboard ,but ive seen plenty of single handers ,I think they watch you in the locks ,if your ok they let you go    . Take your camera its beautiful  ,allow plenty of time ,you may want to dally      ,I had to race worce luck .   If you suffer from hay fever ,I dont but ive had my head down the cabin looking for hughy more than a few times , its the hugh plane trees .     I dont know  anything about the other canals .  bob  all the best .
  • 31 Jul 2011 19:41
    Reply # 666631 on 666356
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      Our Lexia is 1978 and yours is 1979. 
          
    Indeed, just a year older than me.
          
     As you are both members of the kyoa you may care to pass on the message and or link to the owner of Amicia.  
    Will do.

     Anybody who sails out of Portishead into the Severn in a small boat earns my respect. 
    If I manage to stay out of trouble, then that might deserve some respect, as it is I may just be foolhardy!

    Funny you should mention The Unlikely Voyage of Jack de Crow It was a discussion about that book that started this whole trouble + Med trip plan in the first place!

    Having read the book I thought 'if he can do it in a mirror then surely it will be a breeze in a small cabin boat'

    Well we shall see. It should be 'interesting' anyway..
  • 30 Jul 2011 23:11
    Reply # 666356 on 666322
    Sam - wrote:Hi Jonathan

    It is indeed a coincidence..

    My boat was named 'Soloist' when I brought her, not really appropriate for a couples boat.

    I am not generally a superstitious person but didn't fancy starting my sailing career by renaming a boat..

    I had a look into it and found that her original name was Lexia, I figured if I called her Lexia I would be simply _restoring_ her rightful name, and might even get some good luck!

    She is sail number 424 http://www.kyoa.org.uk/k20fleet401+.htm

    I will get in touch with Robin regarding the masts..

    Thanks

    Sam



    Sam, Thank you for that information.  I have looked at the link you gave and clearly the kyoa is another active sub culture with a wealth of information.  There seem to be a lot of Kingfisher 20s but can there really have been four hundred plus?  Our Lexia is 1978 and yours is 1979.  I see that sail number 420 is Amicia.  If you look at "Lexia and the Azab" and find my posting of 20 July you will see that I commented very favourably on a boat which I thought was called Almecia but I would presume  now is Amicia and what a brave sight she made as she went past me at speed.   As you are both members of the kyoa you may care to pass on the message and or link to the owner of Amicia.  All the best with the sailing plans.  Anybody who sails out of Portishead into the Severn in a small boat earns my respect.  It is even more challenging than the Humber estuary where we kept our previous boat.  If you haven't read it, you might appreciate The Unlikely Voyage of Jack de Crow, by A J Mackinnon published by Seafarer Books 2002, which is his account of sailing and rowing a Mirror dinghy from North Wales to the Black Sea, mostly by inland wateways, but including a crossing of the Channel.  His description of the stage from Sharpness canal down the Severn estuary to the River Avon is chilling.  However, by comparison, a Kingfisher 20 would be a big vessel.  Fair winds.  Jonathan
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