Batten parrels fastenings

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  • 14 May 2017 23:37
    Reply # 4833147 on 4694922

    Clamp Aid Red Hose Clip End Guards  Little plastic protrectors to slip over the end of the hose clips.  They cost about GBP4 for 20 plus postage.  I have used them, but it might be a good idea to glue them on.

  • 07 May 2017 10:24
    Reply # 4818794 on 4694922
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I too have this tool, but somehow I have not become friend with it. I guess I must do a little more practicing with it.

    Now I came to think of it: On my first junk, Malena I used to secure the batten parrels from sliding on the battens just by putting on a ‘waist belt’ of several rounds of tape. Even my not so good rolling hitches did not climb over the (about 2mm) shoulder that the tape made.

    I consider trying that again on one or two battens on Ingeborg, just to see. Although the hoseclamps hold perfectly well, they are not nice to work with close to the sail cloth (sharp and pointy), and probably just add unnecessary cost.

    Arne

     

  • 07 May 2017 00:32
    Reply # 4818538 on 4813563
    I've got one, and I like it very much. (I got it from Brion Toss, the rigger, and instead of the wingnut on the end, it has a custom machined handle/nut that is a bit easier on the hands. One really good thing is that the tightened wire seems much less vulnerable to corrosion and failure than the normal clamps. But there are two disadvantages compared to normal hose clamps.

    For one, you need a fair amount of space to flip the tool about 180 degrees around the hose when finishing the clamp, and I've not been able to use it in some crowded spaces.

    The other being that once "tightened" it is done, and has to be cut off and replaced if you need it tighter, perhaps because it leaks 'just a little bit'. Same if you want to disconnect something for service regularly.


  • 04 May 2017 08:38
    Reply # 4813563 on 4808943
    Erik and Evi Menzel Ivey wrote:

    You may consider this tool...http://www.clamptitetools.net instead of a hose clamp. No sharp edges and the ends tuck in nicely.  With enough use it would be cheaper, too.


    Erik


    That's a clever tool.  Have you used one? 
  • 02 May 2017 17:04
    Reply # 4808943 on 4694922

    You may consider this tool...http://www.clamptitetools.net instead of a hose clamp. No sharp edges and the ends tuck in nicely.  With enough use it would be cheaper, too.


    Erik

  • 29 Mar 2017 19:54
    Reply # 4700860 on 4696185
    Jami Jokinen wrote:What about potential sharp edges of the hose clamps? Tape over?

    Dont worry. You worry far tooo much. Life is simple.
  • 29 Mar 2017 07:58
    Reply # 4697374 on 4694922

    I have 40mm plumbing waste pipe slid over my 38mm battens, as chafe protection (sure, it taps against the mast, but this tells me that the sail needs sheeting in). The forward end is secured by the screw that holds the sail to the batten, and the after end is far enough aft that it acts to stop the semi-short batten parrel from sliding forwards.

    I cannot think of a way of shielding a hose clamp sufficiently well to use it on a long distance cruising sail, though it might be OK on a sail used only for a few hours of sailing each week, if taped over.

    I've used a screwed-on plastic knob successfully for many thousands of miles, though. One small hole for a self-tapping screw is unlikely to cause damage, unless the batten is under-sized.

  • 29 Mar 2017 07:54
    Reply # 4697372 on 4696185
    Jami Jokinen wrote:What about potential sharp edges of the hose clamps? Tape over?
    That's why I didn't like the idea, but our Norwegian friends obviously have a pragmatic solution.
  • 28 Mar 2017 19:07
    Reply # 4696185 on 4694922
    What about potential sharp edges of the hose clamps? Tape over?
  • 28 Mar 2017 16:10
    Reply # 4695837 on 4694922
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I agree with Ketil

    On the last rigs I have used hose-clamps to fix two loops from 6mm line to the batten. To these loops, I tie the batten parrels and HK parrels (if used). I always remember to wind insulating tape around the batten first, to avoid corrosion.

    Arne.

    PS: I have used a cheaper method which also worked (on Malena):  Wind 3-4 rounds of suitable tape around the battens where the batten parrels/HK parrels are to sit. The  1 - 2mm "belt" should be enough to secure a rolling hitch from sliding past it.

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